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Would it be easier for him to give up his American citizenship???  We will never live down there full time - all it seems to have done is cause problems financially.  We will contact Treasury and get the TDF-90 done.   If he now liquidates his only RRSP can we forget doing this form?   Seems like far too much intrusion into our lives!....thanks for replying....Laurane Nash
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Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 9:14 PM
Subject: US citizen living in Canada buys an Arizona condo - spousal RRSP's

Name: L
 
My question is: Applicable to both US and Canada
 
QUESTION: My dual US/Cdn husband (living full-time in Canada - I am Cdn) has spousal RRSPs in large amount and we had no idea he had to file a special form for this.  He has filed world-wide income with the IRS/CCRA for the 10 yrs he has been a US citizen and used the 2555-EZ/1040 forms for full exemption of ($70k US).  
 
Now we would like to buy a recreational property (under $90k) in AZ and would like to know any pitfalls we should look for.  Should the property be only in his name, and can we register a condo in the RRSP (I thought some could be).
 
Is it difficult to get a US mortgage rather than taking money from the RRSP for downpayment?   Thanks.
INGRAM REPLIES
 
In my opinion, no one should use the 2555 EZ1040 in your husband's position.  The EZ means that all sorts of lines have been left off the return and those lines are mostly deduction lines like extra exemption amounts for housing, etc.
 
SPOUSAL RRSP's
 
I am presuming that he is using HIS income to buy YOU Spousal RRSP's in your name.  If this is the case, he does NOT need to file any special form because he has no signing authority or economic interest in the accounts.  the accounts are yours - pure and simple.  However, if HE has a total of over $10,000 American ($15,000 or so Canadian), HE must report each and every individual account and his financial interest in it to the Department of Treasury on a Form TDF-90.  The penalty for failure to report is up to 5 years in jail PLUS up to $500,000 fine.  This would include a joint account with you, any accounts he has signing authority over in Canada such as your childrens' accounts, your mother's account, a cub pack account, a church account, his employer's company account and includes EVERY CANADIAN VISA, Mastercard, Amex and other credit cards.
Remember that penalty.
 
ARIZONA PROPERTY
 
You can buy the property in Arizona in both names or either name.  It does not matter at all if you are not going to rent it out.  If you are planning on renting it out occassionally (or full time), each owner must file an Arizona 140NR Income Tax return and a Federal 1040 (your husband) and a 1040NR for you.
 
Of course, your husband can elect to file a 1040 joint return with you as well in which case you would file a joint Arizona 140NR and a joint Federal 1040.
 
The same rental amounts would have to be converted to Canadian dollars and a Canadian T776 Rental statement filed with each of your Canadian T1 returns.
 
You can NOT register the Arizona Condo in your Canadian RRSP and you cannot take money out of hte RRSP to buy an ARIZONA Condo if you already own another home in which you live.
 
The best way to get the down payment is likely to borrow as much as you can on your personal house in Canada and use it for anything from a $20,000 down payment to the full $90,000 purchase price.
 
That way, your loan was in Canadian dollars and you will repay the whole thing back in Canadian Dollars.  A good example here is that if you had done the same thing in 1991 when the exchange rate was 1.1458691, you needed to earn $114,586.91 Canadian to repay $100,000 US.
 
In other words, if your payment was $1000 a month US, you needed $1,145.87 Canadian to pay the monthly payment.
 
The next year in 1992, the exchange rate went to 1.2003 and you needed $1,200.30 Canadian to pay the $1,000 US.
 
In 1993 the exchange rate was 1.2800 and you needed $1,280.00 to pay the $1,000 a month and today, in 2002 with an exchange rate in the 1.54 range, you need about $1,540 Canadian to make the $1,000 a month payment. 
 
Far better to borrow 100% of the money in Canada "unless: you think the Canadian Dollar is going to rise in which case, borrow it in the US.
 
You could take th middle road and borrow half in Canada and half in the USA. ( I think the Canadian Dollar is going to go up again to 1.20 but I am in the minority on that one).
 
 

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