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March 2003 Vol. 2

The  CEN-TAPEDE
Newsletter of: the CEN-TA Group

In this issue:

bulletOral Contracts - Car Purchase
bulletMexican and Canadian Insurance
bulletMore Waiver Omissions
bullet Tax on Buying/Selling Domain Names
bulletMarital Change of Status
bulletOpen or Closed Mortgage?
bullet Pass Property to Children with Minimum Tax Consequences
bulletSuggestion for Realtor in Edmonton
bulletSelling a Lot in Arizona

Oral Contract

Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: (no subject)
HI I DONT KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP BUT I THINK SO .A FRIEND OF MINE BOUGHT A CAR AND PUT DOWN A 1000 DOLLARS BUT THE CONTRACT SAID1750.THE DEALERSHIP SAID ORALLY THEY WOULD GIVE HER TIME TO PAY THE REST.WELL 24 DAYS LATER THEY CAME AND REPOSSES THE CARBECAUSE THEY WANTED THE REST OF THE MONEY.THEN WHEN SHE OFFERED THEM THE MONEY THEY REFUSED KEEPING THE CAR AND HER MONEY.WHAT RIGHTS DO WE HAVE.SHE WASNT EVEN GIVEN 30 DAYS TO MAKE A PAYMENT AND WHEN SHE TRIED TO GIVE THEM THE REST OF THE MONEY ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT THEY REFUSED.HELP OR CAN YOU.

     ----------------------------------------- david ingram replies weakly!

  The problem with this is that an any oral agreement on a used car is only worth the paper it is written on.   And, every jurisdiction (state and / or province) has different sets of rules.   From your description, she does not have a leg to stand on (or a car to drive).   The only advice I can give is to go to your local Better Business Bureau and complain.;   They all have arbitration panels and if your lady friend goes in with the money and says she offered to pay "right now", she just might win in the publicity war.   However, the costs could be very high.   I would make the suggestion that she is better off taking the $750 she has and finding another car and making a better deal.   The dealer who seized the car likely has another $750 worth of Bailiff and other fees against this now and she would need $1,500 to "catch up. David Ingram

Mexican and Canadian Insurance

  • Any comments from anyone? Past experience - comments about this reader's new business venture.  Suggestions for a good Mexican / Canadian / US Insurance agent.
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  •  Hi Davie....??????
  • here.
  • I was going to e-mail you tomorrow, but no time like now time. Dave I am starting a tour business to Baja...Its somewhat unique.I will take couples on a tour of Baja in my motorhome.    I plan to start up next winter.What state is the best to get a business license and register...I assume a state with no tax....What do you think?.......I trust your keeping well,regards to George Hatton and Jose and all in the office. cheers, ??????

  • ---------------------------- david ingram replies: 
  •  
  •  <personal snip> Sounds like a great business. Being a retired dual US and Canadian citizen leaves you in a great position to work out of the US in the winter and Vancouver Island in the summer.  
  • However, your problem will not be with the United States. To do what you want to do, you need a "great" insurance policy which you will need to cover a BC registered motorhome to transport paying passengers into Mexico from California or Arizona.   That might be hard to get at any price which will let you make a profit.   You will also need an FM2 or an FM3 Mexican working visa.   If the idea is that you are going to be "in Mexico" already and they will join you, you absolutely need an FM3 visa.   Where are you now?   I had Amazon.com send you a couple of book suggestions that you might want to pick up if you are going to "Mexico".  
  • Interestingly, when I was reading your email, a California client of Mexican descent whose brother used to work in the WHITE HOUSE and now works with the Tijuana Tourist Bureau came in the office. "HE" owns a rental condo in Whistler and we are doing his non-resident tax return.   He is going to put me in touch with his brother and I will see if there is anything else.   I am also passing this on to Salvador Huerta, a Mexican/Canadian CPA   who I am trying to put some "paid for" Mexican work together "with".   You might be the first real client for the new venture.   BUT FIRST - go to a Good Mexican/American Insurance Agent. NO Insurance - do NOT do it.   Make sure you can afford the insurance before I start running up a big bill.   -------------------------
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  • Dave,  you are a gem. How did you know my routine, but I guess you know me by now. Insurance I will get. My base will be Yuma Arizona.   That's where I am now and just tripping in and out of Baja. Baja is becoming a big sell with Europeans, especially it seems with the Germans.   My trips will be 10days at $300 US a day, all the comforts of home. However I am flexible like I've always been.   I just talked to Yuma City hall and because I am outside the city limits I do not need a business license. Having a Mexican national on board (so to speak) would be a great advantage. All Safaris in the process of getting registered will start out of Yuma though Baja  and terminate in Yuma. Clients would fly to Phoenix then on down to Yuma.   From Asia they would fly to LA then to Yuma.   Can I get them to sign a waver in case of whatever?   I plan on starting up in November this year. cheers, XXXX 

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    david ingram replies:  
  • You can get them to sign a waiver, but it is not necessarily effective.   Remember that airline passengers sign waivers and regularly sue the airlines, the pilots, the ground crew and the driver of the snowplow.   The only thing that will protect you is a Major Insurance Policy.  this means TWO MAJOR INSURANCE policies because you are going to be carrying passengers in the US in a Canadian Motorhome AND you are going to have paying passengers in Mexico.   You need to tell ICBC what you are doing to be covered for your public liability under ICBC.   You need some sort of policy for Arizona because you are acting as a livery vehicle picking people up in Arizona and should likely put an Arizona Licence plate on as well.   You may be taking people into California as well and likely need a livery licence or tag to operate there.   Remember that you are going across international borders where your situation will come to the attention of the authorities.   Miss one "little" item and you can be dead in the water financially.  You also have to be absolutely sure about the passengers.   All you need is a German passenger with a joint and you will lose your motor home and could end up in a Mexican hotel with bars for 20 years.

  • More Waiver

    Mike from Singapore points out that I left Singapore out of the list of commonwealth countries whose citizens still qualify for a border issued waiver if they are landed immigrants in Canada.
    Dave   I think you have missed Singapore off the waiver list.   MXXXXX  

    [Subject: RE: [CEN-TAPEDE] CANADIAN LANDED IMMIGRANTS REQUIRE VISA FROM CONSULATE AFTER MARCH 17, 2003

    You are right -  Singapore is in the Commonwealth countries and shows up in the Chart near the bottom but I did not put it in the list.   Thanks   ingram  

     

    Tax on Buying/Selling Domain Names

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  • Name: PXXXXX 
    My question is: Canadian-specific (but applies to almost every other country - just the form name and line numbers would be different on the individual country's tax return.)
    QUESTION: RE: Taxes on Internet Domain Names

    I have registered over 100 internet domain names.  This year I have
    experienced some losses.  Are they considered to be capital losses

    (Schedule 3, line 127) or
       are they considered to be business investment losses (line 228, line 217)?
     
    What will CCRA consider internet domain name losses to be - capital losses -
     (Schedule 3) or business investment losses?
     
    Do I have the choice on which type of loss I can claim it as?  Also, while I
     experienced losses this year, I may have gains in future years if I can sell
     my remaining domain names at a profit.
     
    Thanks for reading this question and for your help David!
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  •  david ingram replies:  
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  • Neither of your choices is the answer.   There is no doubt that you are in the "business" of buying, creating and selling
    DOMAIN names.
       As such, any profits are taxable at full rates and any losses become deductible as a full dollar amount against any income.  
  • In Canada fill out CCRA Form T2124 and enter the resulting loss (or profit)  on line 135 of the Canadian T1 General return. Filling out the T2124 will undoubtedly remind you of other legitimate deductions which could involve depreciating your computer, claiming part of your internet connection, research materials, postage, photocopying, artwork, office in home, etc.  
  • The same answer would apply to the US, New Zealand, Great Britain, Germany, Spain, etc.   In the US fill out Schedule "C" and put it on your 1040.  
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  • As always, I would remind readers that the CEN-TA Group provides this type of service.   George Hatton at (604) 913-9133 (Hatton@centa.com) would be a good resource to help you with this type of return and its filing.   I mention this because you considered a capital loss and an ABIL but omitted the correct one from your choices.
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  • For those of you in the Vancouver / Vancouver Island area, this is the kind of question I answer most Saturdays on the FRED SNYDER Show on CFUN from 2 to 3 PM - CFUN is 1410 on the AM Dial - the call in number is: *1419 from your cell phone, (604) 280-2386 locally and 1-888-280-2386 from the island or way out in the Fraser Valley.
  • Marital Change of Status

     Name: AXXXXXX 

     My question is: Canadian-specific (but applies to the USA as well.)

    QUESTION: My wife and I separated in Aug. 2002.
    1. When claiming my marital change on the tax form, my refund is increased. Is this because I am now separated?
    2. Do I claim the amount being paid for child support and does she claim it as income?
    Thanks for your assistance.

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    This question came from this spot:
     http://www2.jurock.com/askexpert/ask.asp?aid=121&cid=63 Ozzie Jurock's very excellent Real Estate Investment news site.
    At www.jurock.com -------------------------------------

    david ingram replies.  

    With everything else the same and an income of over $18,000, your refund should NOT get higher if you are separated. If your income is under about $18,000, you might qualify for a BC sales tax or other provincial credit which you do not qualify for with a higher combined family income.   Child support is not deductible in Canada for any new agreements made after May, 1997. An earlier child support agreement might still be deductible to the payer and taxable to the recipient.  Child support has never been deductible in the United states.   So, if your agreement is for child support only, it does not form any part of your tax return. On the other hand, if you were paying $1,000 a month child support and $500. (or any other figure) of spousal support, the spousal support would be deductible to yourself and taxable to the recipient.   If this applies to you, you need to fill out CCRA Form T1158 which you can download and print from: http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/t1158/t1158-02e.pdf   In addition and in any case, you can also download and print the CCRA's Support Payments Guide from: http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/p102/p102-02e.pdf   You need Acrobat reader to read these forms.  You can get a free copy of Acrobat reader if you look around at: www.adobe.com   D'Arcy von Schleinitz at (604) 913-9133 (darcyv@centa.com) would be a good resource for you if you need help doing your return. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------  
    David Ingram -

    Open or Closed Mortgage?

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     QUESTION FROM SOUTH SURREY 
    We,my wife and I,are both employed by the Government,making $60K each /year.  We  Sold our home  in  Jan/01.    We got 270k proceeds for another downpayment on a future home.  Real Estate,in the area(White Rock) has since gone up 25%.We are currently renting a home $1500/month.   We have two children ages 11 & 17 years and wish to remain in the area.     We have little savings(RRSP) and I am 5 years from retirement at 60 y.     I would like to know if it is wise to purchase a home with a rental suite. We would be living in one part of the home.     We are looking at a mortgage of approx. $300K . Can I make the interest payments deductable?     Should We get an open or closed mortgage?     Thank you     MXXXXXXXXX

      ------------------------------- david ingram replies:   

    Being out of the Real estate market for any length of time is always a risk.   However, trying to catch up in the market we are in right now is also a risk.   I think that we can expect our values to go down significantly in the short term and you  might be able to get back in and catch up.   But that is an extremely dangerous position to take.    Because,  if I am wrong and the place you want goes up another ten percent (say $50,000), you need to make $150,000 to make it up because you have to earn $150,000 and pay $50,000 of tax to have $100,000 left to pay the $50,000 increase in price, plus the interest since it is borrowed money.  

    This is a horrible further penalty to pay because you believe my opinion. I am going against the general trend which only sees an upswing in real estate in the lower mainland.   There is little risk if the price goes down.   If you buy a $500,000 place and the price goes down and you intend to keep it, the price fall is meaningless.  You were not intending to sell it and if you hold on long enough, the price will recover.  

    So, even though "I" think the market is going to fall, you should still buy now.   It sounds like you have $270,000.  

    I have three suggestions I have seen succeed in the past and cannot see any reason they will not succeed in the future.    

    1.      If you found a real $540,000 Duplex and paid for your half and borrowed the rest, all the interest would be deductible (see Brian Wilson case).      

    2..     Another possibility is to buy two townhouses, pay cash for yours and then put a mortgage on it to use as a down payment and borrow 100 % to buy the rental townhouse.  In that case the interest would be deductible.    

    3.     And yet a third suggestion would be to buy "4" units while you continue to rent until the kids leave home. Eight or nine years from now, move into one and defer the tax under Section 45(3).  

    Other things to consider. 

    You do not have a lot of savings. 

    Have you been with the government long enough to qualify for a decent pension? 

    Are you being forced to retire at 60 or can you work to 65.  

    Can you  take retirement and continue to work as a consultant or  work part time until 65? the longer you can continue to put money into your CPP, the larger the pension in the future.   Just some thoughts. 

    With regard to mortgage deducibility, you should go to www.centa.com, click on newsletters and read the November 2001 version.  It has 11 pages of information about rearranging your affairs to make your mortgage deductible.   You would likely get a lot out of a private consultation.  Give it a thought.  If you do decide to come, You and your spouse should both come together.   david ingram

    Pass Property to Children with Minimum Tax Consequences

  • Question for You
    SXXXXXX
    My question is: US-specific
     
    QUESTION: I have an 11 acre horse farm and would like to pass it to my 5 Children. The property is worth about $250,000. My cost basis in the property is virtually zero (since I have depreciated it with Horse breeding income). What is the best way to pass this property to my children in order to minimize capital gain and gift tax concerns. I am 70 years old.
     
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    david ingram replies:
      
  • The best advice today is not necessarily the best advice tomorrow.   However, there is no estate tax on the amount you mention.   Why not just enjoy it and leave it to the kids when you ride off into the sunset.   They will inherit it at your cost base and when they sell it, they will have enough money to pay any capital; gains tax that may ensue.  
  • You could start a gifting program now but that just causes control problems most of the time.  Five kids can rarely get along when it comes to an estate.  
  • See a local lawyer and make sure you have a will.   Another technique which could save fes in the future would be to put the whole thing in a living trust or even crazier (but not that) would be to put them on the title as joint tenants with you with a side agreement that they are only on title for ease of probate and that they do not consider themselves to have any claim on the value until you die.    That way, there is no gift tax but it transfers very easily upon your demise.  
  • You really have to consider the kids though.  
  • 1.    Would one or two of them really like to own and operate the place themselves?  If so, you need a will that leaves the whole thing to them and the power to mortgage the property to pay the others their fair share.   You could have the other four carry a 25 year mortgage which comes due in ten years.  In ten years, the child that kept the ranch should have enough equity that he or she can refinance and pay out the siblings.   I can think of a dozen different ways to address this.  I don't have the time to consider them all.
  • Find yourself a good family lawyer and discuss it with them first by yourself.   Then call in the kids for another discussion with the lawyer.  Do NOT make any decision.  Go back and talk it over again with the lawyer and see what their opinion of a solution would be.  
  • Hope this helps.   By the way, if you want to bring the family up for a vacation in Vancouver, BC, Canada, we would be glad to help you out.   We do a large percentage of our work by email, snail mail, courier, and fax.  Distance is not a problem with
    David Ingram -
  • Suggestion for Realtor in Edmonton

     

  • My question is: Canadian-specific

    QUESTION: I am looking for a real estate accountant in Edmonton, Alberta a good one, any suggestions

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    Hello, David my name is DXXXXXX and I recently purchased some rental properties and I was wondering if you knew any real-estate accountants  in Edmonton Alberta you can reach me at this e-mail address your help would be greatly appreciated
  • I currently subscribe to your centa email. I love the attitude and advice presented in the emails. My wife and I are currently looking for an aggressive account to work with us. However, we live in Edmonton, Alberta and would feel more comfortable with someone in this city. Could you recommend someone in Edmonton that shares your views on taxation?
  • ------------------------------------- david ingram replies
  •  
  • I have a good friend who now lives in Las Vegas but still uses his Edmonton Accountant for his Canadian Stuff. He "swears" by him and in spite of a twenty year association, I have never managed to get "Ralph's" business although we certainly trade opinions about US/Canada stuff.   Ralph's accountant is:   drum roll please!  
  • Frank Phillet
    Phillet & McLennan
    #207, 10350-124 St
    Edmonton, AB T5N 3V9
    (780) 429-0460
  • Please note that Mr Phillet has no idea that this is going out. If he wants to send me an email at taxman@centa.com. I will be glad to tell him who gave his name out but I will bet that the Las Vegas reference will suffice.  
  • Good luck.   I know how "Ralph" feels.  the backbone of our business is people who have moved away or who move often and have sent us their work by mail or fax or courier or email for years.  Without them, we would be dead.  
  • David Ingram -
  • Selling a Lot in Arizona

    These are the answers to two more questions about selling the lot in Arizona.  The original is at the end of the two follow up questions.

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    Hi David

    Thank you for the information.  I have one more question.  If I write to the IRS to get an exemption from withholding tax on the sale of my property and it takes them 90 to 120 days to respond, does that mean I cant sign any documents for transfer of ownership or obtain the funds for the sale until 3 to 4 months when the IRS has replied?

    Answer:

      No - you can still sell. Tell the Escrow agent you are expecting the letter.  I have seen Escrow agents wait four months for the letter before finally sending the money to the IRS in disgust.   You should get the letter in time for the escrow agent to release the money to you directly.  REMEMBER - you still have to file the tax returns next year even if there is no withholding.   david  

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    Hi again David

    If I do not ask the IRS for an exemption from withholding tax for the sale of our property in the U.S. so I could go ahead and sell the property immediately what will I have to do?

    Answer:

    Get your ITINs Now - You need them anyway.   Give them to the escrow agent or at least make sure the Escrow Agent does not send the money to the IRS until you give them the ITINs.   The wait for a year or at least until next February and prepare a 1040NR each and An Arizona 140 Tax return each to ask for the money back.   we can do those here for you.   

    ingram      

    -----Original Message-----
    Sent:
    Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:19 PM
    To: CENTAPEDE
    Cc: sonja@centa.com; D'Arcy von Schleinitz
    Subject: [CEN-TAPEDE] Sale of Lot in
    Arizona - avoiding the 10% withholding

    Hi David

    My husband and I are Canadian citizens and we bought an RV lot in Arizona in 1999 for $23,413.50.

    We are now selling the lot for $25,900.

    Property taxes totaled $778.70 and caretaker/other costs totaled approx. $2786.00.

    We had no gain on sale of the lot. 

    What should we do regarding the U.S. tax rules (with-holding tax requirement etc) and getting back any money they with-hold from us?  What forms are we required to complete?

    Thank you very much for your help.

    XXX XXXXXXX

    Sherwood Park , Alberta

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    david ingram replies.

    Withholding 10% is a federal law which applies to the purchaser when the vendor is a non-resident who does not have a clearance certificate from the US IRS.

    the same thing happens in reverse when the vendor is a US resident and is selling something like a Whistler condominium.  In the case of the sale by the US resident, Canada requirtes the withholding of 25% of the gross sale unless a form T2062 is submitted to the CCRA and a Canadian Clearance certificate issued.

    With the hundreds of forms in  the US system, however, there is no IRS form similar to the Canadian T2062.

    To get an exemption from withholding you have to write a letter to:  

    IRS
    Office of International Operations
    11601 Roosevelt Boulevard

    Philadelphia , Pennsylvania ,
    USA 19255

    In the letter you should include the originals of all your costs associated with the lot.  Note that travel expenses from Canada  are NOT going to be allowed as a deduction against a possible capital gain.  I have taken the following cost and sale amounts from my August, 1994 newsletter.  You can find the whole newsletter at: http://www.centa.com/0894.htm  

    I have pulled the list out and put it here:  

    Calculating the Adjusted Cost base of a piece of US Real Estate.

    When calculating the profit or loss on the sale of a US property, one must first determine the basis or adjusted cost base of the property. The usual method is to take the purchase price and add or subtract relevant amounts.

    Examples of Increases to Basis (Additions to cost price):

     *    Purchase price of the property plus any appropriate taxes PLUS:

    * An addition to the property (new room, lift and put a basement underneath).

    * Replacing an entire roof.

    * Paving a driveway, or building a driveway, or an approach bridge or culvert.

    * Installing central air conditioning.

    * Legal fees and closing costs to purchase property.

    * Survey costs, fencing, digging or drilling a well.

    * Installing septic tank or alternative energy source.

    * Rewiring building, replumbing entire building.

    * Assessments for local improvements: water connections, sidewalks, roads.

    * Casualty Losses - restoring damaged property.

    * Interest and taxes not used as a deduction in other years (US only).

    Examples of Decreases to Basis:

    * Exclusion from income of subsidies for energy conservation measures.

    * Insurance reimbursements.

    * Casualty or theft loss deductions.

    * Easements (amount received for granting an easement).

    * Credit for qualified electric vehicles, (amount of the credit).

    * Gain from sale of old home on which tax was postponed (family residence only).

    * Residential Energy Credit: Amount of the credit if the cost of the energy item was previously added to the basis.

    * Section 179 Deduction.

    * Deduction for clean-fuel vehicles and clean-fuel vehicle refueling property.

    * Depreciation: The greater of the depreciation deduction which decreased your tax liability for any year or the deduction you could have claimed under the depreciation method selected.

    * Corporate distributions: Non-taxable amount.

    Keep a photocopy of all the receipts you send. And send the originals because they do not want copies.  They will send them back to you.

    Ask for a waiver of the tax. It will usually take about 90 to 120 days.

    In your case, there is not likely going to be any withholding. However for someone else's benefit, it\f it ended up that there was still a $10,000 profit on a $100,000 sale, the purchaser has to hold back 10% of the $10,000 and remit the $1,000 to the IRS on an 8288 form.

    If the lot was in California , there would be a state withholding of 3% and if the lot or condo was in Hawaii , the withholding is 5% for the state.

    Even if there is not withholding, you still have to file a tax return each to report the sale. Failure to file the tax return as a non-resident with US source income is a minimum fine of $1,000 each to a maximum of $10,000.  I have seen a 105 year old woman fined $10,000.  It is just like a parking meter ticket.

    You also need Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers to file the US tax returns and you should have them BEFORE the saleso that the escrow agent can properly identify the sale against your number and not get your sale mixed up with the other 5,285 John smith's who file tax returns.

    You get your ITIN by filling out a form W7 and sending it to Bensalem.

    Remember you both need an ITIN and you both have to file a tax return. You can get the W7 here:

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-fill/fw7.pdf

    AND, for those individuals who are living in the USA and have a piece of property in Canada , the Canadian exemption form can be found at: 

    http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/t2062/t2062-01e.pdf

    Remember that the sale has to be reported on your Canadian Income tax return as well.  

    Last but not least, we are a firm that specializes in the type of work you need. D'Arcy von Schleinitz or Sonja Clark CA, CPA, LLB in the office below can help you with ease.  


    David Ingram -

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