My question is: Canadian-specific
QUESTION: Hi,
If we buy a 
fixer-upper to renovate and flip without renting it out what are the allowable 
expenses for 
deductions?
Thanks
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david ingram replies:
 
In general anything you spend to do the fixing is a 
deduction from the final sale profit.  This would include but is not 
limited to:
 
materials, subcontractors, legal, accounting, real 
estate commissions, surveyors, appraisals, interest on the mortgage, interest on 
a building loan, interest on material loans (maybe because you used a credit 
card to buy), truck expenses to get supplies and transport tools, afvertising, 
utilities, photography, landscaping, trash removal, dumping fees, building 
permits, architects fees, engineering fees, home inspection fees, insurance, 
helpers, etc.
 
Remember that any profit is taxable at straight 
income rates on line 135.  Flipping or renovating does NOT create capital 
gains tax.  The following older Questions will explain that a 
bit.
 
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DAVID
 
A "friend" who is a BC realtor and has the 
flipping  question presented to her
from time to time  recently 
attended a seminar that was related to this
subject.  As a result she 
was able to provide me with some interesting
thoughts to ponder concerning 
"intent" and "professional background" when it comes to "flipping houses"
and 
tax in Canada.  You may possibly be looked at as a Developer all 
the
subsequent implications.
Read the full article at <http://tax.centa.com/comment.php?mode=view&cid=8>
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david 
ingram replies:
In Canada, the purchase and sale of any piece of real 
estate with or without
renovations is considered a sale and subject to 
straight income tax unless:
1. It was bought for and clearly used as your 
personal residence and was
intended to be used for an indefinite period of 
time which is usually in the
five to ten year range.
2. It was bought 
as and used as a recreational property
3. It was bought for the purposes 
of earning long term rental income.
In the case number 1, there is no 
tax.
In the case of numbers 2 and 3, the sale is treated as a capital 
gain and
only fifty per cent of the profit is taxed at your regular tax 
rates.
Lots of / many (anyone caught) are taxed full tax rates when they 
buy a
house, move in, fix it up and sell it a year or two later and then 
do
another one.
Of course, most are NOT caught in these 
circumstances.
However, "any" flip is going to be straight income unless 
the person can
prove that they bought it to live in and then:
* 
married a person with three children and it is not big enough (had to 
sell
and bought bigger)
* were transferred to another city (had to 
sell to buy in new city)
* lost their job, were injured, etc. and can no 
longer afford to move in. In
this case, they would have to show that they had 
the finances to have paid
for it when they bought it. (Not only can they not 
afford it but they have
moved into their parents' basement 
(boomeranged).
* Inherited a house from their parents and do not need it 
any more. (are
living in the new house)
You can read more by going to 
www.centa.com - click on tax 
guide in the top
left hand corner and then click on the "capital gain" 
section.
david
This older q & A also gives an idea
My 
daughter is closing on a presale Yaletown condominium this summer.  
She
is working until Christmas in Alberta.  She returns to Vancouver 
from Jan to
May and if the job becomes a full time position, then she may 
return to
Alberta to live.  At the time of presale, February 2004, we 
thought that the
suite would be assigned to her and that she would live in 
the suite.
I was hoping that she could declare the suite as her permanent 
residence
since she is only renting in Alberta and the work is not 
permanent.    In
May 2007, she could decide to keep or sell 
the suite.
What does she need to do in order to qualify the suite as her 
permanent
residence?
  
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david ingram 
replies:
There is no absolute answer because you can call a toad a frog 
all day long
but it is still a toad.
To be a principal residence and 
tax free for income tax purposes, the
property must have been bought by her 
to live in and she HAS TO move into
it. - No exceptions that I know 
of.
You can expect that the CRA will be looking at "every" quick resale 
in EVERY
downtown building.
In deciding if it is a capital gain or a 
flip, the CRA will be looking at
the suitability of the unit as a residence, 
the ability to pay for the unit
and past and even future 
performance.
In other words if she claimed this one as a principal 
residence and then did
it again a year later, the CRA would have every right 
to go back and
reclassify the first one.
david 
ingram   
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This is not intended to be definitive but in 
general I am quoting $800 to $2,800 for a dual country tax 
return.
 
$800 would be one T4 slip one W2 slip one or two 
interest slips and you lived in one country only - no self employment or rentals 
or capital gains - you did not move into or out of the country in this 
year.
 
$1,000 would be the same with one rental 
 
$1,200 would be the same with one business no 
rental
 
$1,200 would be the minimum with a move in or 
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$1,500 would be the minimum with a rental or two 
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$2,800 would be all of the above and you moved 
in and out of the country.
 
This is just a guideline for US / Canadian 
returns
 
We will still prepare Canadian only (lives 
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gains, etc. for $150.00 up.
 
With a Rental for $350
 
A Business for $350 - Rental and business likely 
$450
And an American only (lives in the US with no 
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with a little bit more if there is a state return.
 
Moving in or out of the country or part year 
earnings in the US will ALWAYS be $800 and up.
 
TDF 90-22.1 forms are $50 for the first and 
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8891 forms are generally $50.00 to $100.00 
each.
 
18 RRSPs would be $900.00 - (maybe amalgamate a 
couple)
 
Capital gains *sales)  are likely $50.00 
for the first and $20.00 each after that.
 
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