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Subject: RE:  Tried to surrender green card Call david
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David: I can't help but agree with this guy. I have US citizenship and it
costs me 000's every year in accounting fees, additional taxes and headaches
in terms of tax complications. In light of the US being an empire in state
of long term decline (socially and economically with twin deficits that will
most certainly mean more brutal tax regime not a better one) could you offer
some wisdom in terms of what the cost benefit would be? I understand if you
don't wish to give this any more space....just thought I would ask because
it is on my mind a lot these days.
Thank you
I did not make my observation around taxation.  It was clearly made  about
the ability to live and work in the United States at will.  You are able to
move back and forth but at the income level you are in, you also have the
situation where you do fit into the US tax system while living in Canada.
However, I would also make the observation that living in Montreal would
also necessitate an extra tax return and a higher rate than we have in BC.
If you received the number of requests about "how do I get to live in the
states?" a day as i do, you would look askance at someone who has been there
for ten years and is now trying to give up the permission slip.
In your business, you well realize that Canada's markets have done far
better than the US for the past five years and I THINK THAT IT WILL LAST FOR
ANOTHER FIVE but then it will switch.  The US manufacturing is immense and
when they wake up to the fact that outsourcing all their jobs is not a good
idea, they will change around again as well.  I think???
We will see if there are any other comments.  I am one of those who regrets
not getting US  citizenship 30 years ago.
David Ingram
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I am a US citizen my wife Canadian.  We lived in the states for ten years
and have now moved to Canada.  I have applied for perm. res. status in
Canada and have just received "approval in principle" and my work permit.
For the first several months we showed my wifes green card everytime we
crossed to border.  They were always satisfied with the answer that she
would surrender her card when I received my approval in Canada.  We even
went inside on our own to talk to US immigration and were told we were ok,
but should surrender it soon.  Since I received approval, my wife went down
to surrender her card at the border.  They refused to take it.  They told
her that she could be out of the US for one year and before that one year
was up she could not surrender her card.  He said he was not allowed to take
her card.  He said just to be sure and show the card everytime we cross
(which is often). There were three officials all standing there confirming
this.  I am confused.  We are especially concerned because we are flying out
of the US to Paris next week (and back to the US). We wanted to surrender
the card prior so there wouldn't be any hassle fying out/into the USA. I
this right?
david ingram replies:
I am flabbergasted that you would want to surrender it.  Just in case it
does not work out in Canada and you do want to return to the US, it will be
100 times better if she still has her green card.
Continue to file your US returns as joint returns and keep the green card as
long as you can "just in case".
I could even (and would) have made an argument that she get her US
citizenship before leaving the US.  The Green card is not a document to be
thrown away lightly.  Politics change - politicians change - world economies
change.  Keep it as long as you can.
She should have applied to keep it before leaving the US but there is legal
precedent for her keeping it if she continues to file US returns.
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