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As a Canadian permanent resident, could I be able to work in the US.  If =
yes, what do I need to do?
david ingram replies:
You  can work in the USA if you qualify.  Being a Permanent Resident of =
Canada does NOT give you any special priveleges but getting your =
Canadian Citizenship does under the North American Free Trade Agreement =
if you are a member of 63 professional groups.
However, if you were to go to the USA now and work there too long, you =
can lose your PR card (you must be here two out of five years) and also =
lose a chance to fast-track your Canadian Citizenship.
In other words, if you went to the US for four years, you would lose =
your PR card and if the US job disappeared before you had US status, you =
would find yourself going back to your home country.
Details of the NAFTA jobs follow:
NAFTA Rules by david ingram
NAFTA Professional - (North America Free Trade Agreement) PROFESSIONAL =
A professional is defined as a person with a minimum of a bachelor's =
degree, who applies for a position, which requires a degree as its =
minimum entry-level requirement unless otherwise specified.
This is the one we heard about in the news. To meet this classification =
which is unique to Citizens of Canada, the USA and Mexico, you must have =
a bone fide job offer and all licenses and degrees in place for your =
    * An applicant for admission must establish Canadian US or Mexican =
    * The applicant must be entering the United States, Canada or Mexico =
to engage in a profession or occupation at a professional level under =
    * The applicant must be in possession of an offer or contract of =
employment from a United States, Canadian or Mexican employer stating:
        1)     The professional activity to be engaged in
        2)     Purpose of entry=20
        3)     Remuneration
        4)     That the position is temporary in nature and will not =
exceed one  year  (although it can be renewed)
* The applicant must provide documentation of his or her educational =
degree or professional qualifications
* The applicant must meet all licensing requirements
* Employment need not be full-time=20
* Permanent residence abroad is not a prerequisite
* Maximum period of admission under NAFTA is one year
* Dependants accompanying the principal  will be admitted for the same =
amount of time as the principal=20
* NAFTA applicants are not permitted to enter as a professional to =
participate in any way to circumvent a strike
The following is a partial list of some who qualify under a NAFTA Visa. =
Please note that extensive experience can equal a degree in many cases. =
All need a Bachelor or Baccalaureate degree unless otherwise noted. In =
some cases, 3 or 4  years of practical work in a discipline can count =
for one year of a University degree.  Therefore if the University BA =
requires 3 years, you need 9 or 12 years of work experience to qualify.  =
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* Accountants - RIA or SIA or CPA or CGA or CMA or CA
** Actuaries (this is one of two classifications added since 1989)
* Agriculturalists
* Agronomists
* Animal Breeders
* Animal Scientists
* Apiculturist
* Architects - BA or state / provincial license
* Astronomers
* Biochemists
* Biologists
* Botanists
* Chemists
* Computer Systems Analyst - BA or Post-secondary Diploma or =
Post-secondary certificate and three years of practical experience. This =
does not get you to the USA, if your job is programming a computer.  An =
Analyst might spend a day a month working on some modifications (in a =
testing mode for instance), but they better not be thought of as a =
"programmer" within the company.
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**** Computer Software Engineer *** This is NOT here as an approved =
occupation.  However, Jackie Bednarz (US head of the NAFTA Section 16 =
Working group in Washington stated specifically that if a recognized =
University was to offer the degree, she would consider computer software =
engineers under the ENGINEER classification when a recognized University =
granted the degree.  My understanding is that SFU and McGill are now =
granting such degrees and that the Professional Engineers of British =
Columbia have recognized graduates as members of their professional =
society.  Note that TC and TN's were being granted for this category on =
a sporadic basis until the INS realized that no such "official" degree =
Jackie Bednarz also pointed out (She was part of the original =
negotiating team when the original FTA (Free Trade Agreement) was being =
negotiated in 1985, 86, 87 and 88, there was no such thing as the =
INTERNET, "web masters" and "web sites". When negotiating the job =
titles, no thought was given to the computer revolution, other than the =
computer system analyst designation, which at the time meant a main =
frame analyst for a $1,000,000 computer.
(Thanks to Stuart Lynne and Richard Pitt) (, the CEN-TA =
Group was an official member of the internet as far back as 1986 and =
thanks to Bill Gates himself (he told me to use Microsoft Xenix as my =
operating system) and Radio Shack Model 16 computers, CEN-TA was using =
"email" between offices in Toronto, Ottawa and Vancouver as early as =
As another aside, Stuart Lynne and Richard Pitt went on to found WIMSEY, =
the FIRST ISP in CANADA. Bill Gates became quite famous as well. =20
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* Dairy Scientists=20
* Dentists - DDS, DMD, or state / provincial license
* Dental Technicians
* Dietitian
* Disaster Relief Insurance Claim Specialists - (claims adjuster =
employed by an insurance company located in the territory of a party or =
an independent claims adjuster) - BA and successful completion of =
training in the appropriate areas of insurance adjustment pertaining to =
disaster relief claims; or, three years experience in claims adjustment =
and successful completion of training in the appropriate areas of =
insurance adjustment pertaining to disaster relief claims
* Doctors - (see physician further on)
* Economists
* Engineers - BA or state / provincial licensing
* Entomologists=20
* Epidemiologists
* Forester - BA or state / provincial licensing
* Geneticists=20
* Geochemist =20
* Geologist =20
* Geophysicists  (including Oceanographer in the United States)  =20
* Graphic Designer - BA or post-secondary diploma and three years    =
* Hotel Managers - BA in hotel / restaurant management; or,       =
post-secondary diploma or post-secondary certificate in hotel / =
restaurant management and three years experience in hotel / restaurant =
* Horticulturist
* Industrial Designer - BA or post-secondary diploma or post-secondary =
certificate and three years experience
* Interior Designer - BA or post-secondary diploma or post-secondary =
certificate and three years experience
* Journalist BA plus three years experience - (This category is no =
longer valid and has been left in to explain the circumstances. As I =
understand it, journalists in general took it as an insult that they had =
to have a BA degree, because, "most, if not all," of the best known =
journalists do not have a BA degree.)
* Land Surveyor - BA or state / provincial licenses
* Landscape Architect
* Lawyer (including notary in the Province of Quebec) - LLB, JD, LLL, =
BCL degree (five years); or membership in a state or provincial bar
* Librarians - MLS or BLS (for which another BA was a prerequisite)
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* Management Consultants - BA; or equivalent professional experience as =
established by statement or professional credential attesting to five =
years experience as a management consultant, or five years experience in =
a field of specialty relating to the consulting agreement.  I must make =
it clear here.  A Management Consultant is NOT a manager.  The surest =
way to lose your management consultant renewal is to show up at the =
border with a business card with the title General Manager, Western =
Region, or Human Resources Manager, or, or, or.  A management consultant =
could consult with the actual sales manager about sales techniques or =
about selling into Canada.  A management consultant could be advising =
the actual human resources manager in hiring techniques or even =
suggesting that one candidate is a better fit than another one.  A =
management consultant can do market research, gather and assemble data =
and write a report to give to the manager. This is likely the hardest TN =
visa to get but is also a very important one when it comes to serving =
the needs of the US company.
Note that the management consultant does NOT need a degree, just five =
years experience.  This is the perfect job description for the person =
with 23 years of job experience who has never gone through the formal =
process of getting a university degree in the discipline.
* Mathematician (including statistician)
* Medical Laboratory Technologist (Canada) / Medical Technologist (U.S.) =
- BA; or post-secondary diploma or post-secondary certificate and three =
years experience
* Meteorologist
* Nutritionist
* Occupational Therapist - BA; or state / provincial license
* Organic Chemist  =20
* Pharmacologist (Pharmacist) - BA; or state / provincial license
* Physician - (teaching or research only), MD or state /provincial =
license. To work as MD, a doctor must pass his MLE (medical licensing =
exam), which has three, parts written over a year.  After passing, he or =
she would enter the U.S. under an H-1A.
* Physicist (including oceanographer in Canada)
* Physiotherapist/Physical Therapist - BA; or state     /provincial =
* Plant Breeder
** Plant Pathologists (This is one of two professions added since 1989)  =
* Poultry Scientist
* Professional (most recognized professions)
* Psychologists - state / provincial license
* Range Conservationist
* Recreational Therapist
* Registered Nurse - state / provincial license
* Research Assistant (working in  post-secondary educational =
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- * Scientific Technician - Possession of: (a) theoretical knowledge of =
any of the disciplines: agricultural sciences, astronomy, biology, =
chemistry, engineering, forestry, geology, geophysics, meteorology, or =
physics; and (b) the ability to solve practical problems in any of those =
disciplines, or the ability to apply principles of any of those =
disciplines to basic or applied research.
* Social Worker
* Soil Scientist
* Sylviculturist
* Teacher (College, Seminary, or University) (Post Secondary level only) =
* Technical Publication Writer - BA, or post-secondary diploma or =
post-secondary certificate, and three years experience
* Urban Planner (including geographer)
* Veterinarian
* Vocational Counselor
* Zoologist
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Hope this helps
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