5471 Canadian Corporation owned by US citizens in

QUESTION:
Hi David,
My wife and I recently moved to Canada. In Virginia, she owned a limited
liability corporation. In BC she was advised to form a corporation with
herself and me as its only employees. She did.
Now we need to know how to run a Canadian corporation with a particular
emphasis on taxes.  This is a small Company with expected gross income of
about $120,000. Any advice or direction would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your help in this matter.
Simcerely,
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david ingram replies:
It would be "very" unusual for me to advise US citizens in Canada to form a
corporation with  the shareholders being the only employees.
In fact, I cannot imagine a situation where I would do so.
1. 	You have to file forms 5471 each year to the US government with your
1040 tax return.  This doubles or triples your accounting fees.
2.	You will be signing personal guarantees with anybody you deal with to
start off with and as the employee doing whatever work or actions done by
the corporation, you are personally liable for any actions of the
corporation.
3.	Unless your home is already  paid for, it is difficult to make your
Canadian Mortgage deductible if you have a corporation, easy if you are a
proprietorship or partnership.
4.	A combination of salaries and dividends is just as much tax as a
partnership would pay or even 1/2 a percent more.  You can NOT or should NOT
leave retained earnings in the Canadian Corporation because of the form 5471
mentioned above which makes you report internal retained earnings of the
Canadian Corporation on your US 1040 and pay tax even though you do not have
the money.
5.	Failure for each of you to file the 5471 form will / can result in a fine
of $10,000 for the first 90 days and $10,000 every 30 days to a maximum of
$50,000 per shareholder per year.
You need to sit down with someone like myself who understands Canadian and
US taxes at the same time.  I assume you are US citizens and US citizens
must continue to file US tax returns no matter where they live and no matter
where their income is from.  If you are not in the Vancouver area, I do
phone consultations for a minimum fee of $350.00 for up to an hour.
My likely advice will be to dump the corporation.
The Instructions for form 5471 can be read here
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i5471.pdf
The actual form is at:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5471.pdf
Some of the extra schedules are at:
Schedule J
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5471sj.pdf
Schedule M
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5471sm.pdf
Schedule N
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5471sn.pdf
Schedule O
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f5471so.pdf
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