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And, as usual, Donald Cameron former Canadian Consul in Seattle
has the last word on this subject.
He also adds an interesting phone number which I did not have
before.
Thanks also to Dan B who wrote with similar but shorter
information.
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Cameron [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 12:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Canadian mother's son wants Canadian
citizenshipthrough Consulate in New York - ask an international
income tax, immigration and real estate expert - David Ingram 's
CENTA Services Group in West Vancouver BC Canada
David,
There are 2 solitudes at CIC - and the problems of one do not
affect the other. In other words, delays in citizenship
application processing have NOTHING to do with immigration
processing delays.
Citizenship matters outside of Canada are NOT handled by the
Citizenship & Immigration Canada employees at Canadian Embassies,
High Commissions and Consulates. They are actually handled by
employees of the Department of Foreign Affairs in the consular
sections (not the immigration sections) of the Embassies, High
Commissions and Consulates. These Foreign Affairs employees have
no decision making authority over citizenship applications and
merely forward the pieces of paper to the CIC Case Processing
Centre conveniently located in Sydney, Nova Scotia (the riding of
Deputy Prime Minister Allan MacEachern when the office was moved
there).
Some Foreign Affairs consular employees make an effort to advise
applicants if they think their citizenship applications could
benefit from more supporting documents before they send them on
to Sydney. Other employees do not. In any case, they have no
control over the decision on the application or over how long it
will take. In consequence, badgering them is a complete waste of
time and effort.
Applicants may, of course, telephone the office in Sydney. The
guy in charge is Ernest Smith and his telephone number is (902)
564-7825. Applicants may also phone the CIC Call Centres in
Canada. However, the CIC internal audit of the Call Centres'
responses to the questions they are asked shows that there is a
good chance that applicants' questions will be incorrectly
answered.
Best regards,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected]
To: CENTAPEDE
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 1:15 AM
Subject: Canadian mother's son wants Canadian
citizenshipthrough Consulate in New York - ask an international
income tax, immigration and real estate expert - David Ingram 's
CENTA Services Group in West Vancouver BC Canada
My son applied for Canadian citizenship in May of last year.He
applied at the new york consulate in New York city. They told him
it will take him from three to six months. His mother is a
Canadian living in the US with a green card . The consular agent
can't say how long it will take . After numerous phone calls they
finaly told him that they need his mothers parents US citizen
papers proving that they became US citizen's after 1977. The
question is why isthis taking so long and why can't my son
contact the Nova Scotia processing center by phone or email. The
only way hegot any response from the consulate is by constantly
badgering them this seems a bit rediculous.
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david ingram replies:
The answer is simple. The three to six months time was limit
was a reasonable projection at the time.
Then, In June last year, The Supreme Court of Canada reinstated
some 300,000 applications which had been turned down under a
different set of rules.
NO extra staff were added.
In addition another 800,000 people lined up to get a new PR
(permanent resident) card LATE. The announcement had been out
for three years that the deadline was Jan 1, 2004. However,
almost everyone waited to the last minute and it totally wrecked
the system because every application seemed to take two times as
long as they were expected to.
I make my living filling out forms and almost every one I did
came back at least once for something that I considered silly but
the CIC considered very important.
An example is their request for details of your son's
grandparents' US Naturalization and is explained by another Q & A
you should have received before this one.
Therefore, the net result was that every other application was
shoved back another year or more.
AFor instance, a year ago, we expected new applications through
Buffalo to take less than a year. Yesterday, Vancouver's dean of
Canadian immigration Don Cameron (former Canadian Consul in
Seattle) notified me that Buffalo's processing time is now 20 to
25 months. Don's email is [email protected] if you wanted to
hire him to try and speed up your son's application. He has
worked within the system at a very senior level and used to write
the government's newsletter on the subject.
Other than that, your son will just have to wait. Badgering
the consulate will just slow down everyone's application. I am
actually surprised at how fast most of their paperwork is coming
back under the adjusted circumstances.
Hope the reason helps you understand what is happening.
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