Collecting Social Security if working illegally in the

        I've resisted asking this question because I'm not sure
applies to anyone but me, however, given all of the questions
that you
get relating to the attached...I'm thinking if anyone knows the
answer would be you.
        I am a born Canadian citizen.  In about 1973, I foolishly
in love with a beautiful young lady from Boston. In an effort to
work in
her town I had to convince the authorities that I was not taking
a job
away from an able bodied 'American Citizen'.  After several
of running into a 'brick wall'. My girl friends father (who had
me a job working at his Midas Muffler shop) said let me try for
you (he
was well connected politically)....48 hours later I had a social
security card and number, and began/continued working for him for
several months.
The question: armed with this valid social security card am I
able to
work in the USA?  As you might imagine I'm reluctant to ask some
authority this question for fear of raising a red flag.
Thanks very much!
david ingram replies:
As I remember it, you are a licenced realtor and a political
commentator with a lot of experience dealing with putative
politicians so you will realize that you cannot believe
everything you are told. I too, used to have a television show, a
real estate licence and a Social Security Number which is valid
with work authorization from Homeland Security.
You have a Social Security Number which would NOT automatically
trigger a response if you used it but is not legally valid for
work without a visa to work in the USA.
If, as an English speaking Canadian who blends in well with the
American mosaic, you were to apply for a job, the number would go
through without problem.  However, after ten or fifteen years of
contributing to Social Security, when you went to apply for it,
you would "then" be asked to prove that you were working legally.
If you were not working legally, you do not get Social Security
or Medicare Benefits.
I put this here because there are an estimated 128,000 to
1,000,000 "Canadians" working illegally and paying into Social
Security in the United States with no hope of collecting it. They
have been doing it so long that  they did not realize that
President Clinton changed the law on Sept 30, 1996 to make
everyone have to prove their legal status to collect Social
Security when they apply for it. Any payments prior to that will
still collect Social Security in the future.
So if you, your best friend, a relative or your worst enemy are
working illegally in the USA, you might want to take heed or pass
on the message.
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