My_question_is: Applicable to both US and Canada Subject: Self employment tax Expert: taxman at centa.com Date: Tuesday June 06, 2006 Time: 01:27 PM -0700 QUESTION: I am self employed dual US/Canadian citizen living in Canada. Turbo tax has calculated US self employment taxes of about 1,667 although I pay CPP in Canada. I completed a schedule C and have exempted my income with form 2555. Am I required to pay this or is it exempt under treaty? if so how do I exempt it? ------------------------------ david ingram replies: Under Part II of the US Canada Social Security agreement, a self employed person only pays CPP or FICA (US social security) to the country in which he or she resides. Therefore, you should just override the Social Security calculation to ($.00) You can read the whole agreement at http://www.ssa.gov/international/Agreement_Pamphlets/canada.html# coverage The actual part that applies to you is reproduced here. Part II -- Coverage and Social Security taxes Before the agreement, employees, employers and self-employed persons could, under certain circumstances, be required to pay Social Security taxes to both the United States and Canada for the same work. Under the agreement, if you work as an employee in the United States, you normally will be covered by the United States, and you and your employer will pay Social Security taxes only to the United States. If you work as an employee in Canada, you normally will be covered by Canada, and you and your employer will pay Social Security taxes (contributions) only to Canada. On the other hand, if your employer sends you from one country to work for that employer or an affiliate in the other country for five years or less, you will continue to be covered by your home country and you will be exempt from coverage in the other country. For example, if a U.S. company sends an employee to work for that employer or an affiliate in Canada for no more than five years, the employer and the employee will continue to pay only U.S. Social Security taxes and will not have to pay in Canada. Even if your occupation (such as truck driver or professional athlete) requires you to make frequent short trips from one country to the other over a period of more than five years, each trip can be considered separately so that you remain covered only by the country from which you are sent. 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