Hi, there. My husband has worked in Winnipeg for just under three years as an engineer. He also does contract work in the US that accounts for roughly 33% of his income. We lived in a house in Winnipeg for the first 2 years of his employment there, but last winter (about 11 mos ago) we moved just across the border, so he has a 1 hour commute three times per week to work. The purpose of the move was to easily facilitate his pursuit of a US passport, as he is currently only a greencard holder. We do not plan on applying for permanent residence in Candada. Four days out of the week he in the US all day, and the rest of hte family is in the US nearly all the time. Our ties to Canada are as follows: work permits for both of us, mine open and unused, one bank account (not non-resident, although that can be changed), one investment property that is currently vacant, but which we hope to rent, and my husband's place of employment. Our Canadian-born son has a US passport. We have US driver's licenses, have registered for homestead in Minnesota, have our cars registered and insured in Minnesota, and have three US bank accounts, including one credit card, in the US. We have no Canadian credit cards. Our social ties in Canada are minimal, as we keep in loose contact with a few friends that result in us spending maybe a couple of days per month in Winnipeg, but always returning to our own home at nighttime. We do extensive traveling in the summer, and spend almost no time in Candada between April-September, as my husband can work from home when he's not teaching. Our son attends school and karate in Minnesota, and we only do occasional shopping in Winnipeg. We have continued to pay taxes this past year as residents, and also to use Manitoba Health for health coverage. We also pay for benefits through the University - Blue Cross for dental, etc. Having coverage in Winnipeg is beginning to create a significant inconvenience, and we would like to switch to private health care in the States, but it would only be affordable if we can manage to pay fewer taxes in Canada, maybe as non-residents. What steps should we take (ties to break, changes to make) in order to be able to pay less tax in Canada? Would this result in any sort of significant increase in our net income? (Our current gross in Canada is $78k and in the US it's about $30k). I've been looking everywhere for this information, and you look like the best hope I have found for having my questions answered. Thanks so much! ---------------------------------------------------------david ingram replies:
This is the third similar Manitoba - Minnesota question I have had in a week. Usually, this type of question involves Detroit - Windsor or Vancouver - Bellingham.
The GOOD news is that although, your husband IS taxable in Canada on his earnings in Canada from that date, Canada has no right to tax him on his US earnings. You have not been a worldwide income taxable resident of Canada since the day you moved to the US.
The BAD news is that you are NOT covered by the Manitoba Medical System and the extended benefits plan issued by your Canadian employer even if you do have Manitoba Medical and Manitoba Blue Corss cards, nu,mbers and other identification.
To be covered by the Manitoba Medical system each covered member of your family must be physically sleeping in Manitoba MORE than 183 days a year. None of you are doing that at this time. Everything you have said about vacations, schooling and commuting home each and every night absolutely - without any doubt - disqualifies you from Manitoba Medical. Another way to look at is that you were absolutely disqualified the day you took out Minnesota driver's licences and registered your car in Minnesota. Since your Blue Cross extended benefits depwnd upon your being a primary ember of the Public Health plan first, your Blue Cross is also kaput. I will compare it to your having a bunch of blank cheques with no money in your account.
You can be billed retroactively by the Manitoba system for any medical expenses paid for you by the Manitoba system since 90 days after the day the family left Manitoba to live in Minnesota. And, this would be true whether you went to another Canadian province. You might be covered by the other province's system, but you would lose Manitoba's coverage after 90 days. By the way, I have been there only a little more extreme. I attended the University of Saskatchewan (Regina Campus) and St John's College at the University of Manitoba at the same time.
For the rental, you should be filling out Canadian form NR-6 BEFORE you collect the first month's rent. YOu should notify the bank that you are a non-resident so that the bank deducts the required 10% under Article X o fthe US Canada treaty.
If you moved at the end of November last year, there is not much tax lost but you likely did not have to pay tax to Canada on the one month's consulting income earned in the US.
You should likely buy an hour of my time and you and your husband should be on the phone at the same time and you should record the conversation.
Consultation details can be found further on after the disclaimer.
These other older questions may help as well.
------------------------------------
QUESTION: David, I am a Canadian citizen and just got my green card. My wife is American and works and resides in the US. I work in Canada during the week and go back to the US on weekends. How does this affect my tax filing? Am I filing as normal in Canada or do I have to file in the US also? Your help is apreciated. Thanks, Vince______________________________________________________________
david ingram replies:
You will file in Canada first and then report the income again on your US 1040 (maybe a joint return with your wife). Any tax, CPP and EI paid to Canada will be a foreign tax credit on the US return if you fill out form 1116.
------------------------------------------
QUESTION:
My husband is a US citizen, I am Canadian. Can we save on taxes by living in US and keeping our jobs in Canada. Also understand that mtg int. is tax ded. in US. Thx.
______________________________________________-My husband is a US citizen, I am Canadian. Can we save on taxes by living in US and keeping our jobs in Canada. Also understand that mtg int. is tax ded. in US. Thx.
david ingram replies:
Living in the US and working in Canada will cost you a lot more in expense although you may make up for it with a cheaper house, gas for your car and some groceries.
For instance, living in Washington State and working in BC will not save you any tax on your wages. It may save you overall a little if you have large investment income but it would have to be over $10,000 a year to be meaningful. i.e., If you live in the US, you would not pay tax to Canada on the investment income if the investmentrs were in the USA.
The biggest problem is that you would no longer qualify for BC (or other province) medical and it would cost you anywhere from $300 to $1,500 a month to buy your own equivalent US medical.
The US mortgage interest deduction is of no use to you if you are working in Canada because you will still pay full Canadian taxes first.
And it is possible for most Canadians to arrange their affairs to make their Candian mortgage deductible. Goto www.centa.com and read the November 2001 newsletter in the top left hand box.
---------------------------------------------
david ingram wrote:
Calls welcomed from 10 AM to 9 PM 7 days a week Vancouver (LA) time - (please do not fax or phone outside of those hours as this is a home office)
$1,600 would be for two people with income from two countries
David Ingram expert income tax help and preparation of US Canada Mexico non-resident and cross border returns with rental dividend wages self-employed and royalty foreign tax credits family estate trust trusts income tax convention treaty
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Ingram's US / Canada Services
US / Canada / Mexico tax, Immigration and working Visa Specialists
US / Canada Real Estate Specialists
My Home office is at:
US / Canada / Mexico tax, Immigration and working Visa Specialists
US / Canada Real Estate Specialists
My Home office is at:
4466 Prospect Road
North Vancouver, BC, CANADA, V7N 3L7
Cell (604) 657-8451 -
(604) 980-0321 Fax (604) 980-0325
North Vancouver, BC, CANADA, V7N 3L7
Cell (604) 657-8451 -
(604) 980-0321 Fax (604) 980-0325
Calls welcomed from 10 AM to 9 PM 7 days a week Vancouver (LA) time - (please do not fax or phone outside of those hours as this is a home office)
Disclaimer:
This question has been answered without detailed information or
consultation and is to be regarded only as general comment. Nothing
in this message is or should be construed as advice in any particular
circumstances. No contract exists between the reader and the author and
any and all non-contractual duties are expressly denied. All readers
should obtain formal advice from a competent and
appropriately qualified legal practitioner or tax specialist for expert
help, assistance, preparation, or consultation in connection with
personal or business affairs such as at www.centa.com. If you forward this message, this disclaimer must be
included."
Be ALERT, the world needs more "lerts"
David Ingram
gives expert income tax & immigration help to non-resident
Americans & Canadians from New York to California to Mexico
family, estate, income trust trusts Cross border, dual citizen - out of
country investments are all handled with competence & authority.
Phone consultations are $400 for 15
minutes to 50 minutes (professional hour). Please note that GST is
added if product remains in Canada or a phone consultation is in Canada.
This is not intended to be definitive
but in general I am quoting $800 to $2,800 for a dual country tax
return.
$800 would be one T4 slip one W2 slip
one or two interest slips and you lived in one country only - no self
employment or rentals or capital gains - you did not move into or out
of the country in this year.
$1,000 would be the same with one
rental
$1,200 would be the same with one
business no rental
$1,200 would be the minimum with a
move in or out of the country. These are complicated because of the
back and forth foreign tax credits. - The IRS says a foreign tax credit
takes 1 hour and 53 minutes.
$1,500 would be the minimum with a
rental or two in the country you do not live in or a rental and a
business and foreign tax credits no move in or out
$1,600 would be for two people with income from two countries
$2,800 would be all of the above and
you moved in and out of the country.
This is just a guideline for US /
Canadian returns
We will still prepare Canadian only
(lives in Canada, no US connection period) with two or three slips and
no capital gains, etc. for $150.00 up.
With a Rental for $350
A Business for $350 - Rental and
business likely $450
And an American only (lives in the US
with no Canadian income or filing period) with about the same things in
the same range with a little bit more if there is a state return.
Moving in or out of the country or
part year earnings in the US will ALWAYS be $800 and up.
TDF 90-22.1 forms are $50 for the
first and $25.00 each after that when part of a tax return.
8891 forms are generally $50.00 to
$100.00 each.
18 RRSPs would be $900.00 - (maybe
amalgamate a couple)
Capital gains *sales) are likely
$50.00 for the first and $20.00 each after that.
Just a guideline not etched in
stone.
This from "ask an income trusts tax and immigration
expert" from www.centa.com or www.jurock.com or www.featureweb.com. David Ingram
deals on a daily basis with expatriate tax returns with multi
jurisdictional cross and trans border expatriate problems for the
United States, Canada, Mexico, Great Britain, United Kingdom, Kuwait,
Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, Indonesia, Japan, China, New Zealand,
France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Russia, Georgia, Brazil, Peru, Ecuador,
Bolivia, Scotland, Ireland, Hawaii, Florida, Montana, Morocco, Israel,
Iraq, Iran, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Mali, Bangkok, Greenland,
Iceland, Cuba, Bahamas, Bermuda, Barbados, St Vincent, Grenada,, Virgin
Islands, US, UK, GB, and any of the 43 states with state tax returns,
etc. Rockwall, Dallas, San Antonio Houston, Denmark, Finland, Sweden
Norway Bulgaria Croatia Income Tax and Immigration Tips, Income Tax
Immigration Wizard Antarctica Rwanda Guru Consultant Specialist
Section 216(4) 216(1) NR6 NR-6 NR 6 Non-Resident Real Estate tax
specialist expert preparer expatriate anti money laundering money
seasoning FINTRAC E677 E667 105 106 TDF-90 Reporting $10,000
cross border transactions Grand Cayman Aruba Zimbabwe South Africa
Namibia help USA US Income Tax Convention
David Ingram expert income tax help and preparation of US Canada Mexico non-resident and cross border returns with rental dividend wages self-employed and royalty foreign tax credits family estate trust trusts income tax convention treaty
New York, Boston, Sacramento,
Minneapolis, Salem, Wheeling, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Atlanta,
Pensacola, Miami, St Petersburg, Naples, Fort Myers, Cape Coral,
Orlando, Atlanta, Arlington, Washington, Hudson, Green Bay, Minot,
Portland, Seattle, St John, St John's, Fredericton, Quebec, Moncton,
Truro, Atlanta, Charleston, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego,
Sacramento, Taos, Grand Canyon, Reno, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Sun City,
Tulsa, Monteray, Carmel, Morgantown, Bemidji, Sandpointe, Pocatello,
Bellingham, Custer, Grand Forks, Lead, Rapid City, Mitchell, Kansas
City, Lawrence, Houston, Albany, Framingham, Cambridge, London, Paris,
Prince George, Prince Rupert, Whitehorse, Anchorage, Fairbanks,
Frankfurt, The Hague, Lisbon, Madrid, Atlanta, Myrtle Beach, Key West,
Cape Coral, Fort Meyers, Berlin, Hamburg, Warsaw, Auckland,
Wellington, Honolulu, Maui, Kuwait, Molokai, Beijing, Shanghai, Tokyo,
Manilla, Kent, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina, Red Deer, Olds, Medicine
Hat, Lethbridge, Moose Jaw, Brandon, Portage La Prairie, Davidson,
Craik, Edmonton, Calgary, Victoria, Vancouver, Burnaby, Surrey,
Edinburgh, Dublin, Belfast, Glasgow, Copenhagen, Oslo, Munich, Sydney,
Nanaimo, Brisbane, Melbourne, Darwin, Perth, Athens, Rome, Berne,
Zurich, Kyoto, Nanking, Rio De Janeiro, Brasilia, Colombo, Buenos
Aries, Squamish, Churchill, Lima, Santiago, Abbotsford, Cologne,
Yorkshire, Hope, Penticton, Kelowna, Vernon, Fort MacLeod, Deer Lodge,
Springfield, St Louis, Centralia, Bradford, Stratford on Avon, Niagara
Falls, Atlin, Fort Nelson, Fort St James, Red Deer, Drumheller,
Fortune, Red Bank, Marystown, Cape Spears, Truro, Charlottetown,
Summerside, Niagara Falls, income trust, Income Tax Treaty Convention
international non-resident
cross border income tax help estate family trust assistance expert
preparation & immigration consultant david ingram, income trusts
experts on rentals mutual funds RRSP RESP IRA 401(K) & divorce
preparer preparers consultants Income Tax Convention Treaty
Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas,
Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of
Columbia, Florida, Garland, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois,
Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland,
Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana,
Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York,
North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania,
Rhode Island, Rockwall, South Carolina, South Dakota,
Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin,
Wyoming, British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario,
Quebec City, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia,
Newfoundland, Yukon and Northwest and Nunavit Territories, Mount
Vernon, Eumenclaw, Coos Bay and Dallas Houston Rockwall Garland, Texas
Taxman and Tax Guru and wizzard wizard - consultant - expert - advisor
-advisors consultants - gurus - Paris Prague Moscow Berlin Lima
Rio de Janeiro, Santaigo Zimbabwe Income Tax Treaty Convention