Mr. David Ingram,

I have now tuckedyour web site into my back pocket for future reference but I have a question foryour  "Centapede".
I acquired some stocks several years back (maybe1975-ish when it was first introduced at $10.00/share).  Unfortunately Ihave no recollection or receipt  for the purchase.  Whateversupporting documents I had at the time are now gone. Since the stock acquisitionthe stocks have split 3 to 1 once, were bought out  by another group, split2 to 1 I think and changed it's name from AEC to ECA.  While I can and havetraced the movement of the stock via old newspapers et cetera,  I still cannot say what  value I acquired the stock.

Q. - How can one declarethe gain, for tax purposes, WITHOUT an original purchase receipt?

Q. -Could the $10.00 /share initial share issue value be used to calculate the gainfrom a sale of the stock?
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In 43 years in this business I can NOT remember a single timethat the IRS or CRA asked for the original documentation on the sale of a singlestock.

That does not mean that you should just 'make up' a figure butusing the best recollection of $10.00 a share seems like a valid figure to me,particularly if you can show that 'that' was the price at the approximate timeyou bought or acquired the stock witha old DOW or TSE or VSElisting.

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Phone consultations are $400 for 15 minutes to 50minutes (professional hour). Please note that GST is added if product remains inCanada or a phone consultation is in Canada.

 

This is not intended to be definitive but ingeneral I am quoting $800 to $2,800 for a dual country tax return.

 

$800 would be one T4 slip one W2 slip one or twointerest slips and you lived in one country only - no self employment or rentalsor capital gains - you did not move into or out of the country in thisyear.

 

$1,000 would be the same with one rental

 

$1,200 would be the same with one business norental

 

$1,200 would be the minimum with a move in or outof the country. These are complicated because of the back and forth foreign taxcredits. - The IRS says a foreign tax credit takes 1 hour and 53minutes.

 

$1,500 would be the minimum with a rental or two inthe country you do not live in or a rental and a business and foreign taxcredits  no move in or out

$1,600 would be for two people with income from twocountries

$2,800 would be all of the above and you moved inand out of the country.

 

This is just a guideline for US / Canadianreturns

 

We will still prepare Canadian only (lives inCanada, no US connection period) with two or three slips and no capitalgains, etc. for $150.00 up.

 

With a Rental for $350

 

A Business for $350 - Rental and business likely$450

And an American only (lives in the US with noCanadian income or filing period) with about the same things in the same rangewith a little bit more if there is a state return.

 

Moving in or out of the country or part yearearnings in the US will ALWAYS be $800 and up.

 

TDF 90-22.1 forms are $50 for the first and $25.00each after that when part of a tax return.

 

8891 forms are generally $50.00 to $100.00each.

 

18 RRSPs would be $900.00 - (maybe amalgamate acouple)

 

Capital gains *sales)  are likely $50.00 forthe first and $20.00 each after that.

 

Just a guideline not etched instone. 

 

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I se no reason that you can not although that specificsituation is not one of the examples that comes with the form at http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/t1-m/t1-m-07-e.pdf


Itis not unusual for someone to buiy their new house in Decembver and move inJanuary and the closing costs, etc are just included.  The diffivultyarises when you pay expenses in the year AFTER the move.  Then you need toinclude an explanation and  carry the expenses back with a T1-ADJ.

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Phoneconsultations are $450 for 15 minutes to 50 minutes (professional hour). Pleasenote that GST is added if product remains in Canada or is to be returned toCanada or a phone consultation is in Canada. ($472.50 with GST if inCanada)expert  US Canada Canadian American  Mexican IncomeTax  service and help.

This is not intended to be definitive but ingeneral I am quoting $900 to $3,000 for a dual country taxreturn.

$900 would be one T4 slip one W2 slip one or twointerest slips and you lived in one country only (but were filing bothcountries) - no self employment or rentals or capital gains - you did not moveinto or out of the country in this year.

 

$1,200 would be the same with one rental

 

$1,300 would be the same with one business norental

 

$1,300 would be the minimum with a move in or outof the country. These are complicated because of the back and forth foreign taxcredits. - The IRS says a foreign tax credit takes 1 hour and 53minutes.

 

$1,600 would be the minimum with a rental or two inthe country you do not live in or a rental and a business and foreign taxcredits  no move in or out

$1,700 would be for two people with income from twocountries

$3,000 would be all of the above and you moved inand out of the country.

 

This is just a guideline for US / Canadianreturns

 

We will still prepare Canadian only (lives inCanada, no US connection period) with two or three slips and no capitalgains, etc. for $200.00 up.

 

With a Rental for $400, two or three rentals for$550 to $700 (i.e. $150 per rental) First year Rental - plus$250.

 

A Business for $400 - Rental and business likely$550 to $700

 

And an American only (lives in the US with noCanadian income or filing period) with about the same things in the same rangewith a little bit more if there is a state return.

 

Moving in or out of the country or part yearearnings in the US will ALWAYS be $900 and up.

 

TDF 90-22.1 forms are $50 for the first and $25.00each after that when part of a tax return.

 

8891 forms are generally $50.00 to $100.00each.

 

18 RRSPs would be $900.00 - (maybe amalgamate acouple)

 

Capital gains *sales)  are likely $50.00 forthe first and $20.00 each after that.

Catch - up returns for the US where we use theCanadian return as a guide for seven years at a time will be from $150 to$600.00 per year depending upon numbers of bank accounts, RRSP's, existence ofrental houses, self employment, etc. Note that these returns tend to beinformational rather than taxable.  In fact, if there are childreninvolved, we usually get refunds of $1,000 per child per year for 3 years. We have done several catch-ups where the client has recieved as much as $6,000back for an $1,800 bill and one recently with 6 children is resulting in over$12,000 refund. 

This is a guideline not etchedin stone.  If you do your own TDF-90 forms, itis to your advantage. However, if we put them in the first year, the computercarries them forward beautifully.

 

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My_question_is: Applicable to Another Jurisdiction or Multi-jurisdictionsSubject: Non-resident returning to CanadaExpert: [email protected]Date: Tuesday February 19, 2008Time: 01:54 AM -0000QUESTION:I work in the p/c insurance field and a life insurance agent, suggested that i look at the tax advantages of a life insurance. Long story short, I have a large life insurance policy (from a USA company) with 50,000 in cash value that I bought in 2001. If I move back to Canada and withdraw money, what happens?

My brother, a Canadian citizen, resident in Canada has inherited a property in England. He plans to give it away.Will he be liable for captitaI gains tax in Canada? No liability will attach in England.    Kind regards   -----------------------------------------
david ingram replies:

This is a three month old question which was put aside to answer and then lost due to the death of my good friend. 

If your brother gives the property away right away so that there is no increase in value, there is no capital gains tax to pay in Canada.  On the other hand if it went yup 5000 between inheritance and gift, he would have to pay tax to Canada on one half of the gain.  The calculation would be on schedule 3 and the result would go on line 127 of the return. �